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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  Sail Away

  Sail Away's daughter:
  

  1) were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?

  Raised in

  2) when were you baptized/started seriously being with the witnesses? (Date please, i.e. 1997)

  Baptized age 14, 1995

  3) when did you leave/woke up completely? (date please, i.e. 2013)

  Left age 17, 1998

  Please do the time difference between 2 and 3...

  17 years total. Baptized (due to peer pressure) 3 years, never a believer. Internet played no role in exit.

  Sail Away's son:
  

  1) were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?

  Raised in

  2) when were you baptized/started seriously being with the witnesses? (Date please, i.e. 1997)

  Baptized age 14, 1998

  3) when did you leave/woke up completely? (date please, i.e. 2013)

  Disfellowshipped age 24, 2008

  Please do the time difference between 2 and 3...

  24 years total. Baptized 10 years. Internet played no role in exit.

  NOTE: The Internet played no role in my exit or in Mr. Sail Away's either, but it's how we learned TTAT after our exits. See earlier post.
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  Sail Away

  1) were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?
  

  Converted at age 9

  2) when were you baptized/started seriously being with the witnesses? (Date please, i.e. 1997)

  Baptized in 1976, age 16 (I would have been baptized at age 10 if my father had allowed it.)

  3) when did you leave/woke up completely? (date please, i.e. 2013)

  2011

  Please do the time difference between 2 and 3...

  35 years from baptism to exit

  Mr. Sail Away:

  1) were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?

  Converted at age 5 with parents

  2) when were you baptized/started seriously being with the witnesses? (Date please, i.e. 1997)

  Baptized age 14, 1965

  3) when did you leave/woke up completely? (date please, i.e. 2013)

  Left 1984

  Learned TTAT 2012

  Please do the time difference between 2 and 3...

  Physically in baptism to exit 19 years

  Mentally in from baptism to learning TTAT 47 years
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  YMCA ? Are we allowed to go there or not?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.

  but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.

  i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.

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  Sail Away

  Double post-- cell phone.
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  YMCA ? Are we allowed to go there or not?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.

  but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.

  i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.

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  Sail Away

  Strictly forbidden-- no YMCA memberships or yoga in my former congo on NE Coast, USA. Some of the pioneer sisters who were putting on weight from riding around in cars all day in between coffee breaks were sorely tried by these restrictions. It was an issue. Some went ahead and took yoga anyway. I was never one to rat anyone out.
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  Happy Thanksgiving!

  by Oubliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy thanksgiving everyone!

  i know that we are an international group here and that thanksgiving is an american holiday (and not even all of us in the us celebrate it), but i thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to sharing the many things we have to be thankful for: .

  i am thankful for: .

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  Sail Away

  Happy Thanksgiving Oubliette!

  I'm thankful that, in spite of great distances, we were able to have family time for Thanksgiving. We drove down to Annapolis, MD from Connecticut to be with our son. He and I cooked a fantastic dinner together. Then we called my daughter in Guatemala City and had a video chat with my husband, son, daughter, grandson and I. We got to see my grandson crawl for the first time. Best Thanksgiving ever! Can't wait for Christmas in Guatemala! I can't believe I lived my first 52 years in life without holidays.
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  Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed

  by Phaedra in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..

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  Sail Away

  So sorry, Phaedra. It's the way cults roll. My JW in-laws expressly wrote their only child out of their wills decades ago. The WTBTS takes all of a million dollar plus estate. We are into the third generation of shunning in our family. No sense being angry; it won't change a thing. Sadly, my FIL who accepts brief calls for "necessary family business" only, asked my husband to convey their love to their grandchildren and great grandson, but our kids simply don't care. Why should they? They never knew their grandparents who were too busy shunning their own son for nearly 45 years, and now they are shunning them as well. It's a shame to be in your 90's and have no family connections because of a doomsday cult.
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  2016 Outline for "Elders meet with regular pioneers, special pioneers and field missionaries."

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  pdf.

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  Shampoo, lather, rinse, repeat!
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  I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

  our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

  he hung himself.

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  Sail Away

  Snakes, I'm so sorry for your loss. Take all the time you need to greive. The only thing in life that seems to be true is impermanence. One day you will have fond memories of your brother, smile and celebrate his life. If your relationship was difficult, you can find forgiveness.

  In any event, sudden deaths of any kind are difficult. We don't always get the chance to say the things we would have liked to say. Sometimes the JW factor gets in the way of greiving, for example, when we are excluded from the funeral services. In that that case, you will find your own way to move forward. Trust the process. Learn kindness and forgiveness toward yourself and others. We all have our own struggle. Some of us have been where you are now, and we care.
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  heart troubles

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear all,.

  my health took a beating over the years with stress from various sources, not a little from the wt; and dangerous areas of work involving fumes and so on.

  the arc also took its toll and i have had recently a heart attack.

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  (((Zeb))) Wishing you a speedy recovery!
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses marriages even legit?

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask this because of the circumstances behind why they get married and who they get married by.

  i know people say that they are really in love, they love jehovah, etc, but are these marriages even legit.

  i've talked to older jw's sister who are now widowed, some of them say that they were trapped in a marriages.

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  Sail Away

  I'm speaking of marriages arranged by the organization-- only marry a believer in good standing who will be a "good spiritual head" or a good "spiritual, submissive wife" based on the org's monitoring and criteria. Check with the elders about your intended's standing in the congregation. Follow all the courting/chaperoning rules. Group dating only. Don't even sit next to a brother / sister at the KH unless you are engaged. Don't dance too close at congregation "get-togethers" (a thing of the past). No kissing other than maybe a peck on the cheek. Essentially, you don't choose your future partner yourself, the org does it for you. Really no different than marrying someone who you never met who was chosen by your family. JWs go into marriage blind. Been there, done that.